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Marriott Rewards is the only hotel program where it can worthwhile to transfer your points to frequent flyer programs, so that you can use them to book award tickets.  
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Marriott Rewards is the only hotel program where it can worthwhile to transfer your points to frequent flyer programs (so that you can use them to book award tickets).  
  
 
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If you are are planning on converting Marriott points into frequent flyer miles, you can take advantage of Marriott's Hotel + Air packages, to get a discount on a 7-night hotel certificate. If you'll have an opportunity to stay at a hotel, for 5-7 days, this can be a better option than just a regular points transfer.
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If you are are planning on converting Marriott points into frequent flyer miles, you can take advantage of Marriott's Hotel + Air packages to get a discount on a 7-night hotel certificate. When you transfer enough points for 100,000 miles, you can get a 7-night Category 4 certificate for the normal cost of 3 peak-season nights.
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Or if you are already planning on a 7-night hotel stay, you can use the packages to convert additional points to airline miles at a substantially reduced rate. With a peak season stay, you can get acquire miles for 62.5% of their normal points cost.  
 
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Before Marriott changed the Hotel + Air award charts as part of unifying the Marriott and SPG programs, these Hotel + Air packages were a tremendous deal. In some extreme cases, it actually cost fewer points to get a package (with the free 7-night certificate) than it did to just get the same number of frequent flyer miles.  
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Before Marriott changed the Hotel + Air award charts as part of unifying the Marriott and SPG programs, these packages were a tremendous deal. In some extreme cases, it actually cost fewer points to get a package (with the free 7-night certificate) than it did to just get the same number of frequent flyer miles.  
 
 
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<li>'''When you redeem for a package, you get a 7-night hotel certificate—you can decide where you want to use it later'''. You can use the certificate anytime during the year following your points transfer, and you can use the airline points whenever you want. You don’t need to have a definite plan to use the hotel certificate at the time you transfer you points.</li>
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<li>'''When you redeem for a package, you get a 7-night hotel certificate—you can decide where you want to use it later'''. You can use the certificate anytime during the year following your points transfer and you can use the airline points whenever you want. You don’t need to have a definite plan to use the hotel certificate at the time you transfer you points.</li>
  
 
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<li>'''You can upgrade your hotel certificate when you want to use it—so start out with a Category 1-4 certificate'''. To upgrade your certificate, you’ll simply need to pay the points difference between the different categories of hotels. Unless you have a specific hotel stay in mind, always start with the Category 1-4 certificate, and then adjust it later (if necessary).</li>  
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<li>'''Marriott will usually extend your hotel certificate for at least one extra year'''. You'll need to call in, but you should be able to use your certificates for at least two years from when you buy the package.</li>
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<li>'''You can upgrade, but not downgrade, your hotel certificate'''. If you don't know where you want to use your certificate, make sure to start with one of the lower category options.</li>  
  
<li>'''Hotel + Air packages can still be a good deal, even if you don’t plan to stay the full 7 nights'''. Depending on the package you're interested in, the discount can still make the package worthwhile, even if you only need to stay 5 or 6 nights. Unfortunately, you can’t split the certificate across two different hotels.</li>
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<li>'''Hotel + Air packages can still be a good deal, even if you don’t plan to stay the full 7 nights'''. Depending on the package you're interested in, the discount can still make the package worthwhile, even if you only need to stay as few as 4 nights. Unfortunately, you can’t split the certificate across two different hotels.</li>
  
 
<li>'''The packages are a much better deal when you would need to pay the peak rate for the hotel'''.  Certificates can be used regardless of whether the hotel is offering standard, peak, or off-peak award rates. Marriott has priced the packages assuming that you will take advantage of the certificate during peak travel times.</li>
 
<li>'''The packages are a much better deal when you would need to pay the peak rate for the hotel'''.  Certificates can be used regardless of whether the hotel is offering standard, peak, or off-peak award rates. Marriott has priced the packages assuming that you will take advantage of the certificate during peak travel times.</li>
  
You'll save 90,000 points on a 100,000 mile package, and 45,000 points on a 50,000 mile package, which can be a savings of up to 50% on the cost of 7-night hotel stay.
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If you use the certificate during peak stays, you'll save 90,000 Marriott points on a 100,000 mile package and 45,000 Marriott points on a 50,000 mile package, which can be a savings of up to 50% on the cost of 7-night hotel stay.
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<center>'''100,000 mile packages'''</center>
  
 
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!{{c|5}}100,000 mile packages
 
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 4
 
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When you are redeeming for a 120,000-mile package, you are getting a massive 168,000-point discount on the cost of the hotel certificate.  This table applies when you are acquiring '''Aeromexico''', '''Air Canada''', '''Alaska Airlines''', '''American Airlines''', '''British Airways''', '''Copa Airlines''', '''Delta Air Lines''', '''GOL / Varig''', '''Hawaiian Airlines''', '''Iberia Airlines''', or '''Virgin Atlantic''' miles.
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<center>'''50,000 mile packages'''</center>
 
 
<li>'''When you are redeeming a lot of miles, it is cheaper to get the package, than it would be just to get the miles'''. For example, acquiring 120,000 miles would take the equivalent of 288,000 Marriott or 96,000 Starwood points. But a package including the same 120,000 miles, plus a 7-night hotel certificate would only cost 270,000 Marriott or 90,000 Starwood points! Even if you throw the certificate away, you are coming out ahead. </li>
 
 
 
<li>'''You get an even better deal when you are redeeming for United Miles'''. United is a preferred partner of Marriott’s, and you will get 10% extra miles when you purchase a package.  Not only do you get extra miles for the same number of points, the package is an even better deal relative to a miles-only transfer.</li>  
 
  
 
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!{{c|4}}United Airlines
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 4
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 5
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 6
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 7
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 8
 
|-
 
|-
!{{c|4}}Number of miles you are acquiring
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|{{c|5}}Package Cost
 
|-
 
|-
!style="width: 25%;"|55,000 miles
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|255,000
!style="width: 25%;"|77,000 miles
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|315,000
!style="width: 25%;"|110,000 miles
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|435,000
!style="width: 25%;"|132,000 miles
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|495,000
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|675,000
 
|-
 
|-
|{{c|4}}Normal cost for the miles (in Marriott Points)
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|{{c|5}}Normal cost for 50,000 miles
 
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|-
|123,200
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|120,000
|172,480
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|120,000
|246,400
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|120,000
|295,680
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|120,000
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|120,000
 
|-
 
|-
|{{c|4}}'''Extra points for the hotel certificate'''
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|{{c|5}}Points required for 7-night certificate
 
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|-
|76,800
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|135,000
|47,520
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|195,000
|3,600
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|315,000
|<nowiki>-25,680</nowiki>
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|375,000
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|555,000
 
|-
 
|-
|{{c|4}}Discount on hotel certificate (compared to regular price)
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|{{c|5}}Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
 
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|73,200
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|180,000
|102,480
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|240,000
|146,400
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|360,000
|175,680
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|420,000
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|600,000
 
 
<li>'''You’ll get a smaller discount, if you are redeeming for one of the non-preferred airlines'''. For airlines other than the ones listed above, Marriott will give you fewer miles. The packages are still a good deal, just less good as with the other frequent flyer programs. At the upper end, you are still getting the certificate for less than 10,000 points per day.</li>
 
 
 
Most of these airlines are transfer partners of Starwood, where you would get a good deal on the miles-only transfer rates.
 
 
 
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!{{c|4}}Non-preferred Airlines
 
 
|-
 
|-
!{{c|4}}Number of miles you are acquiring
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|{{c|5}}Package savings
 
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|-
!style="width: 25%;"|35,000 miles
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|45,000
!style="width: 25%;"|50,000 miles
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|45,000
!style="width: 25%;"|70,000 miles
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|45,000
!style="width: 25%;"|85,000 miles
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|45,000
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|45,000
 
|-
 
|-
|{{c|4}}Normal cost for the miles (in Marriott Points)
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|{{c|5}}Percentage discount on certificate
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|84,000
 
|120,000
 
|168,000
 
|204,000
 
 
|-
 
|-
|{{c|4}}'''Extra points for the hotel certificate'''
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|25%
|-
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|19%
|116,000
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|13%
|100,000
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|11%
|82,000
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|8%
|66,000
 
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|{{c|4}}Discount on hotel certificate (compared to regular price)
 
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|34,000
 
|50,000
 
|68,000
 
|84,000
 
 
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'''Aeroflot''', '''Qantas''', '''South African Airways''', '''TAP Portugal''', and '''Turkish Airlines''' are partners with Marriott, but not with Starwood. As a result, it would normally require a lot more points to acquire these miles. If you decide you want to do one of the transfers anyway, you are much better off doing it as part of a package. It costs 70,000 fewer points to get 85,000 miles as part of a package, than getting the same number of miles without the hotel certificate.  
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<li>'''Packages are a better deal on lower category hotels—you can get a 7 night certificate for the normal cost of 3 nights'''. Because the discount is fixed, it is a more significant discount on less expensive hotel stays. For example, saving 90,000 points on a Category 4 certificate represents a 50% savings, but saving the same number of points on a Category 8 certificate only represents a 15% savings.</li>
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From another perspective, the 90,000 points you need to pay extra to get a Category 4 certificate with your 100,000 miles is the the same number of points that would normally be required for a 3 night peak stay. But the 510,000 points you would need to pay extra to get a Category 8 certificate is more than the cost of a 6 night stay.
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<li>'''If you wind up using the certificate during non-peak dates, packages can actually cost more than the separate cost of the miles and hotel room'''. The packages still provide a discount at lower category hotels, especially for 100,000 mile packages, but they can be more expensive than the individual pieces in higher categories for the 50,000 mile packages. The calculations for off-peak dates are even worse.</li>
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<center>'''100,000 mile packages'''</center>
  
 
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 4
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 5
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 6
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 7
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 8
 
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|-
!{{c|4}}Number of miles you are acquiring
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|{{c|5}}Points required for 7-night certificate
 
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!style="width: 25%;"|35,000 miles
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|90,000
!style="width: 25%;"|50,000 miles
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|150,000
!style="width: 25%;"|70,000 miles
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|270,000
!style="width: 25%;"|85,000 miles
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|330,000
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|510,000
 
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|{{c|4}}Normal cost for the miles (in Marriott Points)
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|{{c|5}}Normal cost for 7-night standard stay
 
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|140,000
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|150,000
|200,000
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|210,000
|280,000
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|300,000
|340,000
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|360,000
 +
|510,000
 
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|-
|{{c|4}}'''Extra points for the hotel certificate'''
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|{{c|5}}Package savings
 
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|-
 
|60,000
 
|60,000
|20,000
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|60,000
|<nowiki>-30,000</nowiki>
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|30,000
|<nowiki>-70,000</nowiki>
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|30,000
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|0
 
|-
 
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|{{c|4}}Discount on hotel certificate (compared to regular price)
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|{{c|5}}Percentage discount on certificate  
 
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|90,000
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|40%
|130,000
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|29%
|180,000
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|10%
|220,000
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|8%
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|0%
 
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=== Summary of hotel certificate costs ===
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<center>'''50,000 mile packages'''</center>
  
The following table shows the number of additional points you would to spend to get a 7-night hotel certificate for each category of hotel, depending on the type of airline and number of miles you are acquiring. The normal price for the room already takes into account the free night you get for reservations of 5 or more nights. Getting 7 nights in one of the nicest Marriott’s in the world for less than 10,000 Marriott points per night (along with your United miles), is an incredible deal.
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 6
!style="width: .7in;"|Miles
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 7
!style="width: .7in;"|Cat 1-5
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 8
!style="width: .7in;"|Cat 6
 
!style="width: .7in;"|Cat 7
 
!style="width: .7in;"|Cat 8
 
!style="width: .7in;"|Cat 9
 
!style="width: .7in;"|Ritz 1-3
 
!style="width: .7in;"|Ritz 4-5
 
 
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| colspan="2" |'''Normal Price for Room'''
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|{{c|5}}Points required for 7-night certificate
|'''150,000'''
 
|'''180,000'''
 
|'''210,000'''
 
|'''240,000'''
 
|'''270,000'''
 
|'''300,000'''
 
|'''420,000'''
 
 
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|-
| rowspan="4" |'''Preferred Airlines''' 
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|135,000
|50,000
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|195,000
|80,000
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|315,000
|110,000
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|375,000
|140,000
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|555,000
|170,000
 
|220,000
 
|230,000
 
|350,000
 
 
|-
 
|-
|70,000
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|{{c|5}}Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
|52,000
 
|82,000
 
|112,000
 
|142,000
 
|172,000
 
|202,000
 
|322,000
 
 
|-
 
|-
|100,000
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|150,000
|10,000
 
|40,000
 
|70,000
 
|100,000
 
|130,000
 
|160,000
 
|280,000
 
|-
 
|120,000
 
|<nowiki>-18,000</nowiki>
 
|12,000
 
|42,000
 
|72,000
 
|102,000
 
|132,000
 
|252,000
 
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| rowspan="4" |'''United''' 
 
|55,000
 
|76,800
 
|106,800
 
|136,800
 
|166,800
 
|196,800
 
|226,800
 
|346,800
 
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|77,000
 
|47,520
 
|77,520
 
|107,520
 
|137,520
 
|167,520
 
|197,520
 
|317,520
 
|-
 
|110,000
 
|3,600
 
|33,600
 
|63,600
 
|93,600
 
|123,600
 
|153,600
 
|273,600
 
|-
 
|132,000
 
|<nowiki>-25,680</nowiki>
 
|4,320
 
|34,320
 
|64,320
 
|94,320
 
|124,320
 
|224,320
 
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| rowspan="4" |'''Other SPG Partners''' 
 
|35,000
 
|116,000
 
|146,000
 
|176,000
 
|206,000
 
|236,000
 
|266,000
 
|386,000
 
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|50,000
 
|100,000
 
|130,000
 
|160,000
 
|190,000
 
 
|210,000
 
|210,000
|240,000
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|300,000
|270,000
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|360,000
 +
|510,000
 
|-
 
|-
|70,000
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|{{c|5}}Package savings
|82,000
 
|112,000
 
|142,000
 
|172,000
 
|202,000
 
|232,000
 
|352,000
 
 
|-
 
|-
|85,000
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|15,000
|66,000
+
|15,000
|96,000
+
|(15,000)
|126,000
+
|(15,000)
|156,000
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|(45,000)
|186,000
 
|216,000
 
|336,000
 
 
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|-
| rowspan="4" |'''Other Non-SPG Partners''' 
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|{{c|5}}Percentage discount on certificate
|35,000
 
|60,000
 
|90,000
 
|120,000
 
|150,000
 
|180,000
 
|210,000
 
|330,000
 
 
|-
 
|-
|50,000
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|15%
|20,000
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|7%
|50,000
+
|(5%)
|80,000
+
|(4%)
|110,000
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|(9%)
|140,000
 
|170,000
 
|290,000
 
|-
 
|70,000
 
|<nowiki>-30,000</nowiki>
 
|0
 
|30,000
 
|60,000
 
|90,000
 
|120,000
 
|240,000
 
|-
 
|85,000
 
|<nowiki>-70,000</nowiki>
 
|<nowiki>-40,000</nowiki>
 
|<nowiki>-10,000</nowiki>
 
|20,000
 
|50,000
 
|80,000
 
|200,000
 
 
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=== Potentially save even more with Marriott’s 5-night packages ===
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<li>'''You get an extra 10% when you are redeeming for United Miles'''. United is a preferred partner of Marriott’s and you will get 10% extra miles when you purchase a package. But you get the same extra 10% on a regular points transfer, so it doesn't affect the value proposition of the packages.</li>  
 
 
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<li>'''Marriott offers 5-night hotel + air packages that are designed for timeshare owners, but can SOMETIMES be booked by the general public'''.  You can call Marriott and ask to redeem for a 5-night package. They will usually tell you that you can’t. But people sometimes get lucky, and it doesn’t hurt to ask. If you are turned down, you can try calling back and getting a different representative. </li>
 
  
<li>'''5-night packages are an even better deal than the 7-night packages'''.  For example, a 120,000-mile package that includes a 5-night hotel certificate is 58,000 points LESS expensive than simply redeeming points for the 120,000 miles. In addition, it is easier to take full advantage of a 5-night certificate.</li>
 
 
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=== Cheap frequent flyer transfers when you are booking a multi-night stay ===
 
=== Cheap frequent flyer transfers when you are booking a multi-night stay ===
  
'''If you are already planning a 5 to 7-night stay at a Marriott or Starwood hotel, you can take advantage of these hotel + air packages to convert points to airline miles at extraordinarily good rates'''.
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Another way of looking at these packages is from the perspective of someone planning a hotel stay.  
  
We don’t normally recommend transferring points into miles until you have a specific redemption in mind. However, the cost to do so, when you are already booking a multi-night hotel packages, is inexpensive enough, that it is worthwhile to transfer extra points to a program that you are most likely to use.  
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If you are already planning a 7-night stay at a Marriott hotel, you can take advantage of Marriott's Hotel + Air packages to convert points to airline miles at discounted rates'''.
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We don’t normally recommend transferring points into miles until you have a specific redemption in mind. However, the potential discount can be significant enough that it can be worthwhile to make a proactive transfer to a frequent flyer program.
  
<li>'''Marriott 7-night packages'''. With the normal Marriott packages, you can acquire airline miles for an additional cost of only 1 Marriott Point per mile (rather than 2.4 points per mile).  100,000 miles would only require 33,334 Starpoints (100,000 Marriott points), rather than the normal 80,000 Starpoints (240,000 Marriott points).</li>
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The best discounts will be for a 100,000 mile package, where you were planning on a peak-period hotel stay.  
  
<li>'''Starwood 5-night packages'''. With a Category 3 Starwood hotel, you’ll need an extra 32,000 Starwood points or 96,000 Marriott points for 50,000 miles, rather than the normal 40,000 Starpoints or 120,000 Marriott points. With a category 4 hotel, you’ll need an extra 30,000 Starwood points or 90,000 Marriott points instead.</li>
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<li>'''Marriott 5-night packages'''. If you can take advantage of 5-night package, you’ll use fewer points than you would for a 7-night package, but the cost in points for the miles is a bit higher, although still well below the normal price. The following table shows costs for the miles, beyond the cost for a 5-night hotel reservation, in Marriott points. The cost in Starwood points would be 1/3 the amounts shown.</li>
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 6
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!style="width: 20%;"|Cat 8
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!style="width: .75in;"|70,000 miles
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|{{c|5}}Package Cost
!style="width: .75in;"|100,000 miles
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|-
!style="width: .75in;"|120,000 miles
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|330,000
 +
|390,000
 +
|510,000
 +
|570,000
 +
|750,000
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|-
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|{{c|5}}Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
 
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|-
|Normal Transfer
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|180,000
|120,000
 
|168,000
 
 
|240,000
 
|240,000
|288,000
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|360,000
 +
|420,000
 +
|600,000
 +
|-
 +
|-
 +
|{{c|5}}Points required for 100,000 miles (as part of package)
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|-
 +
|150,000
 +
|150,000
 +
|150,000
 +
|150,000
 +
|150,000
 
|-
 
|-
|1-5
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|{{c|5}}Normal cost for 100,000 miles
|65,000
 
|85,000
 
|115,000
 
|135,000
 
 
|-
 
|-
|6
+
|240,000
|60,000
+
|240,000
|80,000
+
|240,000
|110,000
+
|240,000
|130,000
+
|240,000
 
|-
 
|-
|7
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|{{c|5}}Package savings
|60,000
 
|80,000
 
|110,000
 
|130,000
 
 
|-
 
|-
|8
 
|70,000
 
 
|90,000
 
|90,000
|120,000
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|90,000
|140,000
+
|90,000
 +
|90,000
 +
|90,000
 +
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 +
|{{c|5}}Percentage discount on certificate
 
|-
 
|-
|9
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|37.5%
|95,000
+
|37.5%
|127,000
+
|37.5%
|145,000
+
|37.5%
|165,000
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|37.5%
 
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With a 50,000-point package, used at a peak hotel, you are wind up paying 75,000 points instead of 120,000 points (for the same savings of 37.5%). Savings are significantly less if you are planning to use you certificates on standard-priced dates, and the packages can actually be more expensive than their components on 50,000 miles, non-peak packages. 
  
 
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  Award Ticket StrategiesStep-by-Step Guide to Booking Award Tickets

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Marriott Rewards is the only hotel program where it can worthwhile to transfer your points to frequent flyer programs (so that you can use them to book award tickets).

If you are are planning on converting Marriott points into frequent flyer miles, you can take advantage of Marriott's Hotel + Air packages to get a discount on a 7-night hotel certificate. When you transfer enough points for 100,000 miles, you can get a 7-night Category 4 certificate for the normal cost of 3 peak-season nights.

Or if you are already planning on a 7-night hotel stay, you can use the packages to convert additional points to airline miles at a substantially reduced rate. With a peak season stay, you can get acquire miles for 62.5% of their normal points cost.

Before Marriott changed the Hotel + Air award charts as part of unifying the Marriott and SPG programs, these packages were a tremendous deal. In some extreme cases, it actually cost fewer points to get a package (with the free 7-night certificate) than it did to just get the same number of frequent flyer miles.


Get a discounted 7-night Marriott stay along with your airline miles

  • When you redeem for a package, you get a 7-night hotel certificate—you can decide where you want to use it later. You can use the certificate anytime during the year following your points transfer and you can use the airline points whenever you want. You don’t need to have a definite plan to use the hotel certificate at the time you transfer you points.
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  • Marriott will usually extend your hotel certificate for at least one extra year. You'll need to call in, but you should be able to use your certificates for at least two years from when you buy the package.
  • You can upgrade, but not downgrade, your hotel certificate. If you don't know where you want to use your certificate, make sure to start with one of the lower category options.
  • Hotel + Air packages can still be a good deal, even if you don’t plan to stay the full 7 nights. Depending on the package you're interested in, the discount can still make the package worthwhile, even if you only need to stay as few as 4 nights. Unfortunately, you can’t split the certificate across two different hotels.
  • The packages are a much better deal when you would need to pay the peak rate for the hotel. Certificates can be used regardless of whether the hotel is offering standard, peak, or off-peak award rates. Marriott has priced the packages assuming that you will take advantage of the certificate during peak travel times.
  • If you use the certificate during peak stays, you'll save 90,000 Marriott points on a 100,000 mile package and 45,000 Marriott points on a 50,000 mile package, which can be a savings of up to 50% on the cost of 7-night hotel stay.

    100,000 mile packages
    Cat 4 Cat 5 Cat 6 Cat 7 Cat 8
    Package Cost
    330,000 390,000 510,000 570,000 750,000
    Normal cost for 100,000 miles
    240,000 240,000 240,000 240,000 240,000
    Points required for 7-night certificate
    90,000 150,000 270,000 330,000 510,000
    Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
    180,000 240,000 360,000 420,000 600,000
    Package savings
    90,000 90,000 90,000 90,000 90,000
    Percentage discount on certificate
    50% 38% 25% 21% 15%
    50,000 mile packages
    Cat 4 Cat 5 Cat 6 Cat 7 Cat 8
    Package Cost
    255,000 315,000 435,000 495,000 675,000
    Normal cost for 50,000 miles
    120,000 120,000 120,000 120,000 120,000
    Points required for 7-night certificate
    135,000 195,000 315,000 375,000 555,000
    Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
    180,000 240,000 360,000 420,000 600,000
    Package savings
    45,000 45,000 45,000 45,000 45,000
    Percentage discount on certificate
    25% 19% 13% 11% 8%
  • Packages are a better deal on lower category hotels—you can get a 7 night certificate for the normal cost of 3 nights. Because the discount is fixed, it is a more significant discount on less expensive hotel stays. For example, saving 90,000 points on a Category 4 certificate represents a 50% savings, but saving the same number of points on a Category 8 certificate only represents a 15% savings.
  • From another perspective, the 90,000 points you need to pay extra to get a Category 4 certificate with your 100,000 miles is the the same number of points that would normally be required for a 3 night peak stay. But the 510,000 points you would need to pay extra to get a Category 8 certificate is more than the cost of a 6 night stay.

  • If you wind up using the certificate during non-peak dates, packages can actually cost more than the separate cost of the miles and hotel room. The packages still provide a discount at lower category hotels, especially for 100,000 mile packages, but they can be more expensive than the individual pieces in higher categories for the 50,000 mile packages. The calculations for off-peak dates are even worse.
  • 100,000 mile packages
    Cat 4 Cat 5 Cat 6 Cat 7 Cat 8
    Points required for 7-night certificate
    90,000 150,000 270,000 330,000 510,000
    Normal cost for 7-night standard stay
    150,000 210,000 300,000 360,000 510,000
    Package savings
    60,000 60,000 30,000 30,000 0
    Percentage discount on certificate
    40% 29% 10% 8% 0%
    50,000 mile packages
    Cat 4 Cat 5 Cat 6 Cat 7 Cat 8
    Points required for 7-night certificate
    135,000 195,000 315,000 375,000 555,000
    Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
    150,000 210,000 300,000 360,000 510,000
    Package savings
    15,000 15,000 (15,000) (15,000) (45,000)
    Percentage discount on certificate
    15% 7% (5%) (4%) (9%)
  • You get an extra 10% when you are redeeming for United Miles. United is a preferred partner of Marriott’s and you will get 10% extra miles when you purchase a package. But you get the same extra 10% on a regular points transfer, so it doesn't affect the value proposition of the packages.

Cheap frequent flyer transfers when you are booking a multi-night stay

Another way of looking at these packages is from the perspective of someone planning a hotel stay.

If you are already planning a 7-night stay at a Marriott hotel, you can take advantage of Marriott's Hotel + Air packages to convert points to airline miles at discounted rates.

We don’t normally recommend transferring points into miles until you have a specific redemption in mind. However, the potential discount can be significant enough that it can be worthwhile to make a proactive transfer to a frequent flyer program.

The best discounts will be for a 100,000 mile package, where you were planning on a peak-period hotel stay.

Cat 4 Cat 5 Cat 6 Cat 7 Cat 8
Package Cost
330,000 390,000 510,000 570,000 750,000
Normal cost for 7-night peak stay
180,000 240,000 360,000 420,000 600,000
Points required for 100,000 miles (as part of package)
150,000 150,000 150,000 150,000 150,000
Normal cost for 100,000 miles
240,000 240,000 240,000 240,000 240,000
Package savings
90,000 90,000 90,000 90,000 90,000
Percentage discount on certificate
37.5% 37.5% 37.5% 37.5% 37.5%

With a 50,000-point package, used at a peak hotel, you are wind up paying 75,000 points instead of 120,000 points (for the same savings of 37.5%). Savings are significantly less if you are planning to use you certificates on standard-priced dates, and the packages can actually be more expensive than their components on 50,000 miles, non-peak packages.




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